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All the crap Clinton and Trump said tonight in one fact-check


An Introduction To PolitiCrap

Circa's reporters are sifting through what's fact, and what's fiction, in Monday night's Hofstra University debate. Did we get it right? Weigh in using our polls.

On the subject of methodology, we're checking the accuracy of the candidate's remarks using our ultra-precise rating system: half-crap, mostly crap, full of crap.



Trump: "My father gave me a very small loan in 1975."

Depends on your definition of "small." The Wall Street Journal discovered a 1985 casino-license disclosure that revealed Trump's father lent him $14 million

The Trans-Pacific Partnership 

Trump: "You called [TPP] the gold standard of trade deals. You said it's the finest deal you've ever seen."

: "No."

In 2012, Clinton did use this language, saying "TPP sets the gold standard in trade agreements to open free, transparent, fair trade, the kind of environment that has the rule of law and a level playing field." 

What do you think of Clinton's claim?


Trump: "You've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life." 

ISIS, as we know it, is only a few years old. Its predecessor, Al-Qaeda in Iraq, was created in 2004 following the U.S. invasion of Iraq.  

All the crap Clinton and Trump said tonight in one fact-check

Watch | Circa fact checks Donald Trump's claim Clinton is to blame for ISIS 

Trump: "Murders [in New York City] are up." 

Actually, in the first quarter of 2016, New York City recorded the fewest murders and shootings in its history. 

All the crap Clinton and Trump said tonight in one fact-check

Trump: "I was against the war in Iraq."

Watch | Circa fact checks Donald Trump's claim he was against the Iraq War 


When told by Lester Holt that stop-and-frisk is unconstitutional, Trump responded by saying, "No, you're wrong."

Many charge that stop-and-frisk was not effective, and in 2013 it was ruled unconstitutional. Trump says that stop-and-frisk policies under former New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani were constitutional. The decline in crime in New York, like in many other major cities at the time,  was caused by many factors and was part of an overall decrease which began four years before Giuliani took office, and it continued to decline for 14 years after he left.  

How do you rate Trump's claim?

Nuclear Proliferation

Both said they think the single greatest problem the world has is nuclear weapons.

Clinton used the issue to try and play off Trump's temperament: "That in fact his cavalier attitude about nuclear weapons is so deeply troubling that is the number one threat we face in the world and becomes particularly threatening if terrorists ever get their hands on any nuclear material." 

This is more of an omission than an outright lie. Hillary Clinton's husband was in office during one of the world's most prolific nuclear-trafficking operation in history run by A.Q. Khan, the Pakistani scientist who created a vast network that has spread nuclear know-how to North Korea, Iran and Libya.

Clinton: "[Trump is] someone who has said pregnancy is an inconvenience to employers." 

TRUMP: "I never said that."

Except that he did. In a 2004 interview with NBC's "Dateline," Trump said pregnancy is "certainly an inconvenience for a business." 

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